Nadine
Feb 19 2008, 11:17 AM
Hi All,
As I'm sure you all know by now, Adobe officially launched Director 11 today at the Game Developer's Conference (GDC) in San Francisco, CA (see
here for the details). This new version of Director is tightly coupled with Adobe Shockwave Player® as being the best solution for creating interactive games, demos, and eLearning courses for the web, desktop, DVD or CD.
The complete announcement is available on the Adobe site:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/...Director11.htmlWe are very excited about this release, and as always, we remain strongly committed to the Director community. This is why I am so happy to announce that we are updating our
flagship Xtras (INM Impressario and INM VizionDB) for this new version, so stay tuned for future announcements, they will be posted right here.
UPDATE: MARCH 2009: INM Impressario 4 for Director 11 has been released, but due to underwhelming sales, we are holding off on future development of INM VizionDB for now. In the meantime, if you are interested in seeing INM SecureNet Xtra ported to Director 11, please contact me.Also, if you have specific questions about our Xtras (any of them), I am your contact, so please do not hesitate to speak to me, through this forum (http://forums.inm.com), by email (Forums@INM.com) or by phone: +1 514-871-1333 x246.
Regards,
Nadine Husain
INM
PS. For those who author on PC and deliver to a PC-only audience, you'll be glad to know that the current versions of all our Xtras all work with Director 11.
HairyDogDigital
Feb 19 2008, 12:09 PM
Hi Nadine,
Will the Impressario and Vizion updates be backwards compatible with Dir 10 (MX04)? Dir 9 (MX)?
...Rob
tururut
Feb 19 2008, 12:19 PM
Will be Impressario and v12 version 3 forward compatible with Director 11 ?!?!?
philippe rachas
Feb 20 2008, 04:03 AM
great news !
the Mac Xtras will it be universal binaries ? (like D11)
HairyDogDigital
Feb 20 2008, 08:54 AM
That's great that the Xtras will be UB, but don't forget that for authoring in Director 11 you have to be running an Intel Mac. The authoring IDE for Director 11 is not supported for PPC Macs.
Wally
Feb 20 2008, 10:23 AM
How will this affect GoldenGate?
Nadine
Feb 25 2008, 10:28 AM
Hi All,
Thanks for your questions over the past week. I apologize for my silence, the reason for that was mainly because i wanted to let you all ask your questions, to try and see what the general trend in comments / concerns was. As I understand it, you are all concerned about ALL our Xtras, and we are grateful that we have such a loyal list of friends in the Director Community.
I hope the following info will answer some of your questions. I recommend you read ALL of this, don't just skim there's a lot of juicy precise info here.
What we are currently working on / Timeline:As we publicly announced last week, we stand behind Director and our Xtras, and therefore, the first step we decided to take was to update our 2 flagship Xtras: INM Impressario and INM VizionDB. We are in the process of doing this right now. However, as you know, INM's partnership with Adobe extends beyond Director and into the RIA space, therefore, our priorities have to be shared, in order for us to reach all our goals.
This means that we need your continued patience. We WILL release new versions of our flagship Xtras, but we are not ready to do so immediately. Many of you have asked for a specific timeline, and if i could give you one, believe me, i would, but I currently don't have anything more specific to tell you, other than: we are working on our flagship Xtras right now, and will release them, one after the other, as soon as they are ready.
Backward Director Compatibility:As you know, Director 11 is designed so different, that, on Mac at least, backward compatibility with our Xtras will not be possible. So basically, for projects built with Director 8.5-10.1, we suggest you continue to use INM Impressario 3 (the current version, free download available
here), and for projects built / upgraded to Director 11, we recommend you use the new version of INM Impressario, once we release it.
Older versions of our Xtras:With regards to older versions of our Xtras, for example, INM Impressario 2 or INM V12 version 3, since these Xtras are retired, i'm sure you can understand that there is no plan to update them for Director 11, since a new version of these Xtras exists and will be updated.
BUT, for INM V12 version 3 specifically, i know that many of you out there are still version 3 and decided not to upgrade to INM VizionDB. If this is the case, i want to hear from you. I want volume here, i want to know how many of you would buy an upgraded version if we decided to do it. I want to know why you are not upgrading to INM VizionDB, and what type of projects you are working on that require an upgrade to V12 version 3. The only way to convince us that you need something is to write to us to tell us. If there are enough of you out there to make a case, believe me, i will make the case for you.
Our Other Xtras:With regards to our other existing Xtras: INM SecureNet Xtra, INM PDF Xtra, INM Moka Xtra, INM GoldenGate. Again, same thing. I need to hear from as many of you as possible. If you need this for your projects, then tell me about your projects, describe what it is you are working on, tell me why you need to upgrade these projects to Director 11. Request which Xtras you would like upgraded. The more people talk to me, the more people make a case for an upgrade, the more i will get the message loud and clear and determine that there really is a need out there for an updated version. At this point, we have not tested any of these above-mentioned Xtras, so if you have specific information you would like to share with us, please do so.
Pricing:A quick note about pricing. Since we haven't released anything yet, it's a bit too early to discuss at this stage, but as you know from experience, we always offer special upgrade prices for those who have previous versions of our Xtras. WHAT the price will be, at this point, I cannot say.
So, convince me, people, I'm waiting to hear from you. I hope I've answered all our questions.
Again, contact me in whichever fashion suits you best:
http://forums.INM.comForums@INM.com+1 514 871 1333 x246
Best,
Nadine
jgomes
Feb 25 2008, 12:04 PM
Dear Nadine, et. al.:
INM SecureNet Xtra is of critical importance to our business. We do tradeshow booth programming, with real-time reporting on a website where our clients can view how the booth is doing throughout the show and download their latest leads so their salesforce can take immediate action.
We use the INM SecureNet Xtra to securely post (to our online reporting database) the attendees' contact information and statistics about how their time was spent in the booth experience. We need several things that I would assume the new version of the Xtra would offer, including Unicode support, MacTel universal binary and full Windows Vista compatibility.
Also, I would hope that one crucial feature would be added, to bring the INM SecureNet Xtra's snxPostNetText method up to date with the NetLingo postNetText method. The latter added a mimetype parameter as of Director 10.1. Our server-side programmers would really like to use tools such as SOAP web services, but they cannot currently because I have no way to designate the proper mimetype on my posts.
I asked about the possibility of adding this parameter in my post to the INM SecureNet Xtra for Director forum way back on 3 July 2007 (http://forums.inm.com/index.php?showtopic=9544). I have received no response on this issue from INM staff over the past 6 months. I hope my timing is better now!
Thank you for continuing your production of excellent Director xtras. You are wise not to put all your proverbial eggs in the RIA basket. Many predict that the (also proverbial!) pendulum of popularity will swing back toward true client-side desktop applications. For our particular niche, they are the only way to be sure that the show will go on, even in the event of catastrophic lost of Internet connectivity, as can easily happen in a tradeshow venue.
Thank you very much.
Jeff Gomes
Nadine
Feb 25 2008, 12:38 PM
Thanks Jeff, this is the exact type of valuable info that we need

I appreciate you sharing this info with everyone else.
-Nadine
johan verhoeven
Feb 26 2008, 05:37 AM
I'm pretty shocked to read, although between the lines, that there is possibly a discontinuation of securenetXtra, and you're asking us, your clients to provide you with insentive to continue support (isn't the fact that we buy the xtra's not enough?).
Our company bought a copy just a few months ago! I'm relying on it to securely connect an e-commerce backend application (writtin in director) to it's online database. Upgrading to D11 is strongly considered due to the added UTF-8 support, if such a vital xtra for my application would fail to be compatible it surely would lengthen the development process severly.. in fact I would be pretty pissed.
tururut
Feb 26 2008, 06:16 AM
Hi, Nadine.
We are really interested to continue using V12 v3 in Director 11. We bought VizionDB but we can not use it because of 2 big reasons:
INM VizionDB version 4.0 supports projects delivered on CD-ROM or installed to a hard drive. There is no support for accessing the database over a network or for client-server deployment at this time.
<LI>Multiple INM VizionDB databases can be open at the same time by a single Director movie. However, a INM VizionDB database can only be accessed by one INM VizionDB Database member (you can't have two open Director movies accessing the same INM VizionDB database).
As me, there are other users working with v12 and not with VizionDB. VizionDB is really powerfull but you may solution some things that v12 can do and VizionDB not (for me, this two ones).
Sorry because of my english.
Kind regards from Barcelona.
François Hebert
Feb 26 2008, 08:23 AM
Hi Nadine.
Thanks for your infos...
We have MANY project that are already using V12 v3.
Be sure I will buy the upgrade... If you choose to release-it
Franck
"BUT, for INM V12 version 3 specifically, i know that many of you out there are still version 3 and decided not to upgrade to INM VizionDB. If this is the case, i want to hear from you. I want volume here, i want to know how many of you would buy an upgraded version if we decided to do it. I want to know why you are not upgrading to INM VizionDB, and what type of projects you are working on that require an upgrade to V12 version 3. The only way to convince us that you need something is to write to us to tell us. If there are enough of you out there to make a case, believe me, i will make the case for you."
Nadine
Feb 26 2008, 09:34 AM
QUOTE(johan verhoeven @ Feb 26 2008, 05:37 AM)

I'm pretty shocked to read, although between the lines, that there is possibly a discontinuation of securenetXtra, and you're asking us, your clients to provide you with insentive to continue support (isn't the fact that we buy the xtra's not enough?).
Our company bought a copy just a few months ago! I'm relying on it to securely connect an e-commerce backend application (writtin in director) to it's online database. Upgrading to D11 is strongly considered due to the added UTF-8 support, if such a vital xtra for my application would fail to be compatible it surely would lengthen the development process severly.. in fact I would be pretty pissed.
Hi Johan,
Actually, I was hoping that my last two posts' goal was to show you how transparent I am actually trying to be, specifically to avoid you the headache of having to read between the lines

We are NOT discontinuing ANY of our Xtras. We will continue to support the current version of INM SecureNet Xtra, and in addition, we offer free technical support for all our clients for all our Xtras.
The only question here is if and when we are upgrading our Xtras to Director 11. Considering that D11 have not even shipped yet, I am sure you can understand INM's request for your continued patience as we determine our future plans. There is nothing to read by that statement other than, we are in internal discussions as to the priorities and timelines for each Xtra. INM, as a leader in emerging technologies is now equally as focused on other areas such as RIAs, this is what INM has always been about, helping our clients create rich user experiences in both online and offline environments.
In addition, as any company would, all I am asking for is feedback from our clients, isn't that the only way to determine, really, if there is a need or not? I am genuinely interested in your business case, why you need the Xtra, what projects are being created out there, what state the Director community is in, and is INM SecureNet Xtra as popular as it once was?
Johan, I appreciate you voicing your concerns. François, Turutut, your comments were great, exactly the kind of information I need.
Regards,
Nadine
HairyDogDigital
Feb 26 2008, 12:17 PM
QUOTE(Nadine @ Feb 25 2008, 10:28 AM)

BUT, for INM V12 version 3 specifically, i know that many of you out there are still version 3 and decided not to upgrade to INM VizionDB. If this is the case, i want to hear from you. I want volume here, i want to know how many of you would buy an upgraded version if we decided to do it. I want to know why you are not upgrading to INM VizionDB, and what type of projects you are working on that require an upgrade to V12 version 3. The only way to convince us that you need something is to write to us to tell us. If there are enough of you out there to make a case, believe me, i will make the case for you.
Nadine,
We still run INM V12 (v3.4) and Impressario 2 (v2.03). We've not upgraded, because the enhancements on Vizion and Impressario 3 are not enough to justify the upgrade. (I'm one of those guys that is always harping about continuous scrolling in Impressario. I'd be willing to pay the full version price just to get that one feature.)
When Director 11 comes out, we do not have immediate plans to upgrade to Director 11 for live production projects. (We will upgrade one of our Windows licenses for internal testing.). And, at that time, I will face the music with regards to the Xtras that we need to upgrade as well.
...Rob
Mike
Feb 26 2008, 03:05 PM
I would but i'm still smarting from the last "upgrade". the issues created by no longer indexing page numbers in documents were insurmountable so VisionDB is incompatible with my project.
The initial thread with my problems is hereBelow is the final word from the technicians as to why I will never be able to utilize a newer version of the product then the V12 version until this functionality is reintroduced:
QUOTE
"I spoke with our experts and the project managers about your concern of having a per document result with the Searchable Library instead of a page result as in the PDF Indexer. As I mentioned in our last conversation, INM VizionDB is using Onix to do the full indexing of the text and the Onix Engine is doing the indexing per document, not per page. Therefore, the only way to get a per page result would be by splitting your document in multiple one-page documents. It is not possible to move the data from the V12 database to the VizionDB as the text will not be indexed. Modifying the Searchable Library to make it return a per page result would be a customization of over $10K. Our suggestion would be to split the document into on-page document, if this is possible. I understand that this is not an ideal solution, but unfortunately, that's the way the Searchable Library works.
John Hamlett
Feb 28 2008, 12:25 PM
I currently use Impressario v1 and V12 v3. I do a lot of cross platform work so Dir11 supporting Intel Macs is very important to me.
I was about to upgrade Impressario anyway, but now I'm waiting to see what's going to follow D11. I find Impressario almost essential now. half the jobs I do requires it to some degree. The only other xtras as essential are BuddyApi and to a lesser degree mpegadvance.
v12 I've only used once as most smaller data driven jobs are fine using csv / data array style text files. I was looking forward to trying out VizionDB and would be disappointed if it wasn't updated for dir11. It would certainly be my first choice of database tool should a job requiring it come up.
CD-ROM work has reduced in the last few years but kiosk and DVD hybrid work has increased. So has the degree of functionality in these projects. I think VizionDB 5 for Dir11 and Intel macs will be on my shopping list in the next couple of years.
I would pay a reasonable upgrade fee for both Impressario and VizionDB just to have Dir11 / Mac Intel / universal binary compatibility. The current feature sets are almost fine as they are (I even figured a way to get continuous scrolling for PDFs in Impressario v1) so it's really only new mac compatibility that is driving my requirement.
I haven't bought VizionDB because I've rarely needed a full scale DB app, and it was released just after I started using v12.
However, I think I will prefer VizionDB to v12 or other DB apps because I understand it is powerful and yet user friendly. I like powerful user friendly apps that shield me from steep learning curves! I have already forgotten much of what I learned for v12, and so to upgrade to VizionDB would make sense next time I do a DB powered multimedia app.
Thanks - John
Nadine
Feb 28 2008, 12:30 PM
Thanks John, you make a great case for INM VizionDB. Anyone else out there that feels this way?
-Nadine
Ian Hamilton
Mar 25 2008, 05:43 PM
Hi, I'm in urgent need of Impressario for D11, any idea of an ETA?
Cheers.
Nadine
Mar 26 2008, 04:01 PM
Hi Ian,
We are currently in development, but not yet at a stage to be able to decide on a release date i'm afraid. What is your project and when is it due?
Thanks,
Nadine
Mark Bateman
Mar 27 2008, 07:28 AM
I'm surprised to hear that Impressario and V12 aren't available at launch - some other developers already have their D11 ready Xtras rolled out...
Nadine
Mar 27 2008, 08:04 AM
Hi Mark, i can appreciate your surprise. However, if you remember the climate the Director community was in, in 2007, there was a lot of doubt and we were unsure if/when D11 would actually come out.
We've noticed, from our own client base, that the number of Director developers are decreasing rapidely, people are moving on to, and developing with other tools and new technologies. As a leader in emerging technologies, even INM's partnership with Adobe extends beyond Director now, and into the RIA space. It's normal, we go with what our clients are asking for, but at the same time, we want to keep our ties with the Director community strong and we will continue supporting it.
All this to say, we needed to hear from you, and needed to know that it made sense for us to update our Xtras for D11. The confirmation came as you all began to vocalize your need for our Xtras, and therefore, we are upgrading our Xtras, starting with the most requested, INM Impressario.
I'm sure you can appreciate that we would need actual business cases and other such validations, before proceeding in the update of our Xtras.
Regards,
Nadine
philippe rachas
Apr 2 2008, 03:23 AM
Impressario D11 is indeed essential !!
We have need it ASAP too.
Nadine
Apr 2 2008, 08:23 AM
Thank you Phillippe. I would be interested to learn about your project to understand your needs.
In the meantime, I just wanted to let everyone know that we have tested INM Impressario 3 (the current version). If your development environment is PC-only, then INM Impressario 3 will work very well with Director 11.
With regards to INM VizionDB (version 4), the same applies, although we have done a little less testing that with INM Impressario, but so far, we have not run into any issues when developping on PC with INM VizionDB 4 and Director 11.
Regards,
Nadine
philippe rachas
Apr 2 2008, 09:37 AM
QUOTE(Nadine @ Apr 2 2008, 08:23 AM)

Thank you Phillippe. I would be interested to learn about your project to understand your needs.
In the meantime, I just wanted to let everyone know that we have tested INM Impressario 3 (the current version). If your development environment is PC-only, then INM Impressario 3 will work very well with Director 11.
With regards to INM VizionDB (version 4), the same applies, although we have done a little less testing that with INM Impressario, but so far, we have not run into any issues when developping on PC with INM VizionDB 4 and Director 11.
Regards,
Nadine
hi,
my english level is maybe insufficient to well describe my project.
i'm an "old" french director user (first cdrom : 1995) because of xtras power and cross platform capacities.
i'm working on a Mac/PC Director app to deliver medical publications and tests (psychiatric evaluations) to a selection of doctors (about 25% of mac users). I work with a mac and or a pc (it depend on projects).
the only use of impressario in my case is to display/print PDF and retrieve bookmarks that are converted in links on the director stage.
this app have to update it content by connecting a web site, retrieve and download new PDF (and a short description list) each month. this web site is updated by administrator who insert new publications with a simple web form and 2 pdf upload fields (see the end of this post).
publications are uploaded in PDF format because this is the best and simplest way to send content/bookmarks in one way and to preserve display and print page settings.
so publications change every month and bookmarks are dynamically generated each time.
i'm still working with DMX2004 but PDF open/read on MACOSX with rosetta is really slow!!
Intel version of D11 is really, really faster on mac but why update Director if i can't update xtras (impressario, printomatic, dmtools, medialab, etc...) ? they are (for me) as important as Director itself !!
one more thing to finish (maybe for a next release) : I have a trouble with impressario use of bookmarks beacause an impressario display limitation of page jump.
if bookmark is at the end of a page, impressario do not allow to display "page jump" in the middle of the stage. so the page of the bookmark is well displayed but the bookmark stay at end, in the bottom of stage. so if another bookmark is on top of page you may think that your link is false or that is a bug. the only solution i've found at this time is to make a special "one continous page" version of each PDF to display bookmark jump correctly and a "standard" PDF version to print it. but what a work !!!!
best regards
philippe rachas
David Giorgi
Apr 7 2008, 08:09 AM
Hello Nadine
I am also a veteran Director Developer since 1993. [Director 4: first cross platform version] There are some multimedia projects that can only be done in Director, please keep updating your products. With out your xtras some CD products would have never been brought to market.
We work on large scale educational and atlas projects for important publishing clients e.g. John Wiley & Sons and OUP [Oxford University Press]
Regards
David Giorgi
Annecy, France
www.chiefdreamer.com
Nadine
Apr 7 2008, 08:25 AM
Thanks David for this information. Yes, our Xtras are very often used in educational projects, so it's great to know that this trend is still continuing. Which Xtras, specifically, do you need us to upgrade from your project?
Again, as a reminder to all, INM Impressario 3 works very well with Director 11, if your development environment is PC. We are actually running a few tests right now to see how reliable it is when deployed for Mac, I will let you know the results shortly.
Regards,
Nadine
Fabian Estevez
Apr 8 2008, 09:49 PM
Hi. Just wanted to know if Impressario 3.01 is fully compatible with the new Adobe Director 11.
Thanks in advance.
Nadine
Apr 9 2008, 09:08 AM
Hi Fabian, i moved your question to the main discussion. As i mention above in this conversation, INM Impressario 3 works perfectly well with Director 11, if you are developping on PC. In the meantime, we are currently working on an update to INM Impressario, for it to be fully compatible with Director 11.
As a follow up, we have completed our testing and confirm that both development AND deployment should be done on PC only, for INM Impressario 3 to work perfectly with Director 11. Anything else, at the moment, will not work.
Regards,
Nadine
JACQUELINE PRECEY
Apr 16 2008, 10:23 AM
Hi,
I'd love to see securenet out for Dir 11, expecially the Mac (it seems quite stable on the PC). I could really use it right now (actually yesterday!!), not only for the proxy work-through but (is it just me?) it seems so much faster than the standard Director downloadNetThing etc.
We use Director for a number of projects, including bespoke presentation software. We are working on a secure export to web feature, which will need to work on the Mac. This would need securenet to work. We might scrap the Mac version if this Xtra should die...
Any (even rough) ideas on timescales?
Thanks, and keep Director alive!!
Alastair Paines
Signals
Nadine
Apr 21 2008, 11:08 AM
Hi there, thanks for your comments and questions. I have cast your vote for INM SecureNet Xtra
Over the past few months, it has become clear to us that INM SecureNet Xtra is one of our top requested Xtras to update. So that's the good news

We have not started development on INM SecureNet Xtra, and will probably not start it until INM Impressario is released, so I don't have a timeline at this point.
However, regarding INM Impressario, there is no official date yet, but I will have an timeline for you all in about 2-3 weeks time.
So, definitely, for all you INM Impressario, INM SecureNet Xtra and INM V12/VizionDB users, stay tuned!

Regards,
Nadine
François Hebert
Apr 22 2008, 07:37 AM
Hi.
Finally, will you upgrade INM v12?
I have a lot of project who wil/can require this upgrade.
Wanna know if you have take decision...
Thanks
Franck
Nadine
Apr 22 2008, 07:43 AM
Frank,
I appreciate your question. We are logging the names of those who are still working on V12 and need an update. However, as you know V12 is now retired, and INM VizionDB is the new version. For now, the plan is still (as announced from the beginning), to update our flagship Xtras. Once we upgrade INM VizionDB, what will probably happen is that we will offer you an upgrade path directly from INM V12 Database version 3, as with any new product release.
This is by no means a closed topic, so a final decision with regards to the plans for INM V12 Database has not yet been reached.
I appreciate your concern and patience and your request has been loggued.
Regards,
Nadine
SafariTECH
Apr 28 2008, 10:48 AM
VizionDB and SecureNet are the two we would be most interested in imediately. We develop government certification and cataloguing software with clinet/server components that requires using these tools and it is necessary to always be using the latest version of the development platform to make our clinets happy.
SecureNet gives us the security and proxy abilities that we require, in a nice little package and VizionDB gives us the DB abilities we require without the need to install special drivers on anyone's system (which the government loves).
Nadine
Apr 28 2008, 11:14 AM
Thanks, you make a great case for both Xtras. I think you'll be pleased to know that both are in our plans to update. INM VizionDB, as our 2nd flagship Xtra, will follow after INM Impressario is released. Following that, INM SecureNet Xtra, being the most requested Xtra, will probably be the next to be updated.
For now, these plans are not yet confirmed, but as soon as i have more info, i will post it here first.
Regards,
Nadine
matthias grund
May 9 2008, 07:20 AM
Hi Nadine,
thanks for your infos about INM´s xtra update-Plans for Director 11. Please let us know as soon as you have any vague timeline when and if an VisionDB/V12 Upgrade will be available (Still using V12 here because of its network/intranet features). We would appriciate it if you just could say something like "autumn 2008" or "last quarter of 2008" - so we can as soon as possible decide if we have to change and move with our products to another DB-xtra or not...
best regards and greetings from germany,
Matthias
Nadine
May 9 2008, 09:41 AM
Hi Matthias, thanks for you questions and i've added your "vote" for INM VizionDB.
Here's how i see things progressing. By the beginning of June, I'll be able to let you know a release date for INM Impressario for Director 11. By July, I will be able to announce the next Xtra to be upgraded. As I may have mentioned previously, INM SecureNet Xtra and INM VizionDB are the most requested Xtras. I am not trying to remain mysterious on purpose, but I'm sure you can appreciate that, until we decide which is the next Xtra to be ugpraded, I can't give you a delivery timeline.
I will touch base with you all again beginning of June.
Regards,
Nadine
tururut
May 10 2008, 10:24 AM
Hi Nadine.
For me could be fine to use the VizionDB. We updated our license from v12 to VizionDB but can not use it because of this two basic things:
INM VizionDB version 4.0 supports projects delivered on CD-ROM or installed to a hard drive. There is no support for accessing the database over a network or for client-server deployment at this time.
<LI>Multiple INM VizionDB databases can be open at the same time by a single Director movie. However, a INM VizionDB database can only be accessed by one INM VizionDB Database member (you can't have two open Director movies accessing the same INM VizionDB database).
If you don't plan to update v12 for Director 11 then I think that you must make available this two great features of v12 in vizionDB. If not, we will move also to another DB Xtra as you can understand.
Thanks and greatings because of your xtras.
forumuser2250
May 11 2008, 12:35 PM
[quote name='Nadine' date='Apr 22 2008, 07:43 AM' post='10524']
Frank,
"We are logging the names of those who are still working on V12 and need an update..."
V12 had a great feature--the ability to define a custom string type, with custom ignore-characters, custom collation order, etc. Last summer I upgraded to VizionDB thinking it would also have those features, but they were gone, and VizionDB has been sitting on my computer, unused.
Another feature that is missing is Web server connectivity.
I don't see how VizionDB can be considered an upgrade for V12. The key features are gone.
Nadine
May 22 2008, 09:12 AM
Hi All,
Just touching base to let you know that we're progressing very well on the development on INM Impressario for Director 11. So, at this stage, I have a question for all you Impressario users who are waiting so patiently for this new version.
Can you please chime in here and let me know:
- Who only uses INM Impressario for Windows, and has been working with Director 11 and the current INM Impressario v3 (since there are no compatibility issues)?
s - Who uses INM Impressario for both Windows and Mac, and has already upgraded (or is waiting to upgrade) to Director 11? If you're still waiting to ugprade to Director 11, what is stopping you from doing it now?
s - Who uses INM Impressario for Mac only? Have you already upgraded to Director 11 and are just waiting for the new version of Impressario? Or are you waiting to upgrade to Director 11, and if so, what are the factors stopping you?
s - Who uses older versions of INM Impressario (v1 or v2) and is just waiting to upgrade directly to the latest version? Or does the release of Director 11 not affect you at all, and you're happy with the way everything is right now?
I'm really interested to hear your thoughts, I haven't heard from many of our loyal INM Impressario users yet.
Regards,
Nadine
Rick Curran
May 23 2008, 06:07 AM
Hi Nadine,
Director MX 2004 with Impressario v2 are the current versions of software I have. We don't do a great deal of Director development but when we do it is for both Mac and PC environments so support for both platforms is important.
I don't have a pressing need to upgrade to Director 11 due to no demand at work, however, if an appropriate project came up I would upgrade in order to have support for Intel Macs / Leopard and Windows Vista. Obviously compatible Xtras, Impressario in particular, will be required otherwise Director would be an unsuitable choice.
Overall I'm not impressed with the Director 11's features, the focus on game related tech rather than app development features combined with Adobe seeming reluctance to market it in any shape or form outside of its launch at GDC is rather concerning too. Much feedback for it has been negative, so other than purchasing to get support for Intel Macs & Vista there's nothing else compelling me to do so right now.
I hope that feedback is useful. The only other bit of feedback is that Impressario would be great if it had support for Javascript within PDF documents, right now I have to program a lot of interaction functions with PDF forms when using Impressario due to this. If you added that feature it would save a lot of time!
Thanks,
Rick Curran
Alison
May 23 2008, 07:19 AM
Hi Nadine
I have used Director since '93. Although I have upgraded to to Director 11 I have not yet developed a project with it as my current work requires compatibility with Shockwave versions prior to Shockwave 11. At the moment I don't have a project that requires me to use Impressario but I am thinking of VizionDB and Director as the solution for an upcoming project.
I have used and will continue to use Impressario and VizionDB xtras. My work is always cross-platform, my development is done on a PC.
I have Impressario v3.0.1 and VizionDB v 4.1.1.
cheers
Alison
Bob Marshall
May 23 2008, 07:19 AM
Hi Nadine
My position is the same as Rick Curran described in his post above. I am still using Director MX 2004 with Impressario v.2 for cross platform Mac/PC development. I am quite happy with the last version of Impressario and it has served our multimedia projects very well. I have no plans to upgrade to D11/V3 until I have a project that calls for it.
Director has always been my first tool of choice for multimedia development but recently a lot of our projects (video in particular) have migrated from CD and DVD onto the web and I am therefore using Flash as the delivery platform for much of our multimedia work now. A number of developers I work with are doing the same.
Bob Marshallwww.bmmedia.co.uk
dan warman
May 23 2008, 07:36 AM
Hi Nadine,
I’m creating a CD catalogue for my company using Adobe’s Director 11 and your INM’s PDF Xtra plugin.
The CD will hopefully allow our customers to view our 100+ catalogue pdf’s.
I’m having problems with Director 11 crashing when I attempt to publish any projector file containing more than 25 PDF Xtra member’s. Any project with less than 25 PDF Xtra member’s works fine.
Would this issue be resolved with an update to the INM’s PDF Xtra plugin or is this a general issue with the INM’s PDF Xtra?
If I can get around this issue by buying a different version of Director to get this working then I shall have to do so as Im working to a very tight deadline.
The error Director 11 gives me is “A fatal error has occurred, Director will now quit…” and something about the application has run out of memory.
My system is Vista 32bit OS, running at 4gb and is nowhere at capacity when the application crashes.
Im developing for PC only.
Many Thanks
Dan Warman
IS Department
Marshall-Tufflex Ltd
John Twycross
May 23 2008, 07:49 AM
It is nearly June, I am looking forward to hearing about the Impressario upgrade. Is there any chance you are in need of beta testers for this? If so I would be happy to help out.
Regards
John Twycross
Pierre Rossel
May 23 2008, 08:02 AM
QUOTE(Nadine @ May 22 2008, 09:12 AM)

- Who uses INM Impressario for both Windows and Mac, and has already upgraded (or is waiting to upgrade) to Director 11? If you're still waiting to ugprade to Director 11, what is stopping you from doing it now?
I am. Dir 11 is mandatory for apps to run correctly (ie not too slowly) on Intel Macs. Please release a Dir 11 version of Impressario ASAP as many other xtra developers already did. We have 1 big project waiting for all xtras to be updated before we can build next release. Other projects are in the pipe and will be using Dir MX 2004 unless Impressario is released soon.
Thanks.
forumuser406
May 23 2008, 12:16 PM
Nadine,
Our flagship product uses Director MX 2004 with the latest versions of Impressario and VizionDB. We've purchased Director 11 but are waiting for both INM Xtras to upgrade to Director 11 (Mac and Windows), and would like to do so as soon as possible.

Woody Chastain
Director of Technology
Learning Multi-Systems
Madison, WI
Nadine
May 23 2008, 01:09 PM
Thanks all for your feedback. I will respond to some of you individually by email, since you all describe different situations, but please keep your comments coming. As always, the more comments and understanding of the urgency of your situations, the more i can help move things along.
Development for INM Impressario is progressing well. Currently, we are on the internal testing phase. We have a few beta testers lined up, but I appreciate knowing that some of you are willing to help.
I look forward to more comments on your particular situation (Mac/Windows, Impressario version, Director version).
Regards,
Nadine
Iggy Davis
May 25 2008, 06:13 AM
I've upgraded to D11 but can't use it yet.
Mainly due to OSXtra not being supported and the bug with font display in the script editor window, (which means the font doesn't antialias and therefore is too ugly to look at all day). Hopefully they'll sort out these issues soon! I have about 30 third party Xtras I use including VDB and Impressario. Always use Budapi and nearly always OSXtra.
I develop on PC, for PC 90%, occasionally cross platform.
Mark Czajka
Jun 5 2008, 04:02 PM
I'm a new Impressario v3 user, and we're ready for the upgrade. I'm wrapping up completion of a new hybrid Mac/PC project, and it runs slow on Intel Macs, specifically loading. But it does run. We will probably upgrade to Director 11 when your flagship xtras are ready.
Gemma Yung
Jul 19 2008, 07:07 AM
Hi Nadine
Good to learn that Impressario is in good progress, but it is mid July now, any update on the upcoming release? If it is not too late, I am happy to be a beta tester like I did for your previous release. And I am looking forward to the new version with full UTF-8 support.
Best Rgeards
Gemma